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Optional June 17, 2015, 12:16:06 AM

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Quailfying 8.00am ET Saturday and Race 8.00am ET Sunday


Another power track like Montreal which should see very similar results to the last race.  Merc>Ferrari>Williams>Lotus>Force India is expected order.

Massa took pole in the Williams last year and Perez took fast lap in the Force India. Rosberg won the race by 2 secs over Hamilton and Bottas was the only car within a respectable distance at the end (8 secs).

Both Red Bulls will be starting from the rear as they plan to take new engines. Plus this track does not really suit their car design despite being owned by them.

Not expecting too many surprises.  Only early odds that look interesting to me are Perez and Hulkenburg for the fast lap at 100/1. Speaking of long shots. Considering Alonso for fast lap as well. He's 250/1 now but expect he will hit 500/1 at some point this week.  He's angry at the slow development of the new Honda and complained loud about the car making him look like an amateur last week. Think if the car can do it (which I think it is close to for one lap speed) Alonso is likely to go fuck you to the team, dial it up 100% and take a fast lap at some stage soonish.  Kimi is the most likely fast lap winner. Its one of the few areas he has been netter than Vettel and he needs to look good for rest of this year to keep his Ferrari seat. Plus he just likes taking them. +750 not interesting enough to jump yet though.


Here's the 'opening' odds from 5D for win and fast lap.





Formula 1   Austrian Grand Prix

Lewis Hamilton     -180
Nico Rosberg     +280
Sebastian Vettel     +975
Kimi Raikkonen     +3000
Valtteri Bottas     +5000
Felipe Massa     +7000
Romain Grosjean     +25000
Pastor Maldonado     +40000
Nico Hulkenberg     +75000
Sergio Perez     +75000
Daniil Kvyat     +100000
Daniel Ricciardo     +125000
Carlos Sainz Jr     +125000
Fernando Alonso     +150000
Jenson Button     +150000
Max Verstappen     +150000
Felipe Nasr     +250000
Marcus Ericsson     +250000
Roberto Merhi     +750000
Will Stevens     +750000



Formula 1   Austrian Grand Prix - Fastest Lap

Lewis Hamilton     +110
Nico Rosberg     +250
Sebastian Vettel     +600
Kimi Raikkonen     +750
Valtteri Bottas     +2500
Felipe Massa     +2800
Romain Grosjean     +4000
Pastor Maldonado     +5000
Daniel Ricciardo     +10000
Nico Hulkenberg     +10000
Sergio Perez     +10000
Daniil Kvyat     +15000
Fernando Alonso     +25000
Jenson Button     +25000
Carlos Sainz Jr     +25000
Max Verstappen     +25000
Felipe Nasr     +50000
Marcus Ericsson     +50000
Roberto Merhi     +300000
Will Stevens     +300000


Optional June 17, 2015, 07:14:10 AM (#1)

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Placed my first bet of the week.

Daniel Ricciardo 11th or worse finishing position +210


But I realized afterward this is probably a bad line. It's a special prop an Aussie book runs each race for Ricciardos finish position. But the same book has Ricciardo at -149 to finish in the top 10... which would give a guaranteed 8.5% profit if I bet both sides.

Not going to do that but kind of wish I had bet more on it now. Aussie books book the bet and pay the bet no matter if it is an error. But don't want to look like a shot taker going back for more of it now as even though they will pay any bet they book, they will punish you with stupid small limits if you piss them off.

Optional June 17, 2015, 07:32:27 AM (#2)

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If you wish to "dutch" the fastest lap market this week it offers a pretty good return;


Spread $100 across all contenders apart from Merc in these proportions to win $142

Vettel $34.70
Kimi 28.58
Bottas 9.34
Massa 8.38
Grosjean 5.92
Maldonado 4.76
Hulk 2.40
Perez 2.40
Ricciardo 2.40
Kyvat 1.60
Button 1.00
Alonso 1.00
Verstappen 1.00
Sainz 1.00



Much like last week the Mercs are almost 100% going to save fuel all race so are bad bets for fast lap at the short odds.


Optional June 17, 2015, 08:44:54 AM (#3)

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Actually those 5D fastest lap odds are kind of shitty for dutching compared to Crown.

Thye have Hanilton at -150 and Rosberg only +200 for it but everyone else much higher than 5D

Can dutch the fastest lap field minus Merc for +390 there, which I have done.

Added a bit extra on Kimi +2800 and the force india pair at 500/1

5mike5 June 17, 2015, 09:28:19 AM (#4)

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I'm gonna bet 2-3 fast lap prop bets myself this week. I need some racing action at especially be fun for a sit down breakfast. Gonna have to have u post that link to show who has the current fastest lap for the whole race lap my lap u have for me b4 when I bet fastest lap

Optional June 18, 2015, 12:08:19 PM (#5)

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This Crown book must be a bit disorganized.

That 'bad line' on Ricciardo not to finish top 10  is still up so i parlayed it with Perez to finish top 10 for +620... which is obviously correlated but they accepted it.

Optional June 19, 2015, 10:12:08 AM (#6)

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After the practice sessions today nothing has changed about my expectations for the race.

Rosberg has looked happier and been faster than Hamilton in both sessions. Similar pattern to last year when Rosberg won the race 'easily' over Lewis.

Mind you Lewis has had excuses and did not run the supersoft tyre in the P2 and calculating what he 'should' have done would have put him fastest and 2/10ths ahead of Rosberg. But facts are he didnt do it and a lot of the reason appears to be his attacking driving style is leading him to over drive key corners.

Anyway, if you want a race to fade Lewis for the win, this would be one.


Practice 2 Times


Optional June 20, 2015, 10:17:46 AM (#7)

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Austrian GP - Saturday - Qualifying Session Results 
 
POSDRIVERNATIONALITYENTRANTTIME
1.Lewis HamiltonBritainMercedes GP1:08.455
2.Nico RosbergGermanyMercedes GP1:08.656
3.Sebastian VettelGermanyFerrari1:08.810
4.Felipe MassaBrazilWilliams-Mercedes1:09.192
5.Nico HulkenbergGermanyForce India-Mercedes1:09.278
6.Valtteri BottasFinlandWilliams-Mercedes1:09.319
7.Max VerstappenNetherlandsToro Rosso-Renault1:09.612
8.Daniil KvyatRussiaRed Bull-Renault1:09.694
9.Felipe NasrBrazilSauber-Ferrari1:09.713
10.Romain GrosjeanFranceLotus-MercedesNo Time
Q2
11.Pastor MaldonadoVenezuelaLotus-Mercedes1:10.374
12.Marcus EricssonSwedenSauber-Ferrari1:10.426
13.Carlos SainzSpainToro Rosso-Renault1:10.465
14.Daniel RicciardoAutralianRed Bull-Renault1:10.482
15.Fernando AlonsoSpainMcLaren-Honda1:10.736
Q1
16.Sergio PerezMexicoForce India-Mercedes1:12.522
17.Jenson ButtonBritainMcLaren-Honda1:12.632
18.Kimi RaikkonenFinlandFerrari1:12.867
19.Roberto MerhiSpainMarussia-Ferrari1:14.071
20.Will StevensBritainMarussia-Ferrari1:15.368

Optional June 20, 2015, 03:26:54 PM (#8)

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Almost all the faves should win


Race Matchups - Austria Grand Prix - Red Bull Ring - Spielberg, Styria, Austria - NBCSN

Sun 6/21       8001 Lewis Hamilton       -290               
8:00AM        8002 Nico Rosberg        +230

Rosberg... but take the win odds of +320

               
Sun 6/21       8003 Nico Rosberg       -170              
8:00AM        8004 Sebastian Vettel        +140     

       
Sun 6/21       8005 Felipe Massa       -130               
8:00AM        8006 Valterri Bottas        +100       
       
Sun 6/21      8007 Valterri Bottas       -145              
8:00AM        8008 Kimi Raikkonen        +115   
           
Sun 6/21       8009 Romain Grosjean       -170              
8:00AM        8010 Pastor Maldonado        +140   
           
Sun 6/21       8011 Nico Hulkenberg       -175               
8:00AM        8012 Romain Grosjean        +145        <-- best dog bet
       
Sun 6/21       8013 Max Verstappen       -195               
8:00AM        8014 Carlos Sainz        +160   
           
Sun 6/21      8015 Sergio Perez       -130              
8:00AM        8016 Carlos Sainz        +100   
           
Sun 6/21       8017 Sergio Perez       -160              
8:00AM        8018 Daniil Kvyat        +130   
           
Sun 6/21       8019 Daniil Kvyat       -125              
8:00AM        8020 Daniel Ricciardo        -105   
           
Sun 6/21       8021 Felipe Nasr       -215              
8:00AM        8022 Marcus Ericsson        +170       
       
Sun 6/21       8023 Will Stevens       -160               
8:00AM        8024 Roberto Merhi        +130               

If Merhi blows out to +180 worth a shot.

Optional June 20, 2015, 03:31:35 PM (#9)

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Formula 1   Austrian Grand Prix
Sun 6/21  8:00AM
Lewis Hamilton  -185
Nico Rosberg  +320
Sebastian Vettel  +680
Felipe Massa  +5500
Kimi Raikkonen  +7200
Valtteri Bottas  +11000
Nico Hulkenberg  +11500
Romain Grosjean  +60000
Pastor Maldonado  +60000
Max Verstappen  +60000
Carlos Sainz Jr  +165000
Sergio Perez  +165000
Daniil Kvyat  +200000
Felipe Nasr  +200000
Daniel Ricciardo  +225000
Marcus Ericsson  +225000
Fernando Alonso  +650000
Jenson Button  +650000
Roberto Merhi  +900000
Will Stevens  +900000

Formula 1   Austrian Grand Prix - Top 3 Finish
Sun 6/21  8:00AM
Lewis Hamilton  -620
Nico Rosberg  -480
Sebastian Vettel  -230
Felipe Massa  +370
Valtteri Bottas  +650
Kimi Raikkonen  +900
Nico Hulkenberg  +1000
Romain Grosjean  +1800
Pastor Maldonado  +1800
Max Verstappen  +2200
Daniil Kvyat  +11000
Carlos Sainz Jr  +11000
Sergio Perez  +11000
Daniel Ricciardo  +22000
Felipe Nasr  +22000
Fernando Alonso  +27500
Marcus Ericsson  +27500
Jenson Button  +27500
Roberto Merhi  +300000
Will Stevens  +300000

Formula 1   Austrian Grand Prix - Top 6 Finish
Sun 6/21  8:00AM
Lewis Hamilton  -800
Nico Rosberg  -750
Sebastian Vettel  -520
Felipe Massa  -190
Valtteri Bottas  -180
Kimi Raikkonen  -120
Nico Hulkenberg  +110
Romain Grosjean  +180
Max Verstappen  +185
Pastor Maldonado  +200
Sergio Perez  +420
Felipe Nasr  +1400
Daniil Kvyat  +1800
Carlos Sainz Jr  +1800
Daniel Ricciardo  +2200
Marcus Ericsson  +3000
Fernando Alonso  +11000
Jenson Button  +11000
Roberto Merhi  +110000
Will Stevens  +110000

Formula 1   Austrian Grand Prix - Top 10 Finish
Sun 6/21  8:00AM
Lewis Hamilton  -1100
Nico Rosberg  -1000
Sebastian Vettel  -700
Valtteri Bottas  -600
Felipe Massa  -500
Kimi Raikkonen  -450
Romain Grosjean  -260
Nico Hulkenberg  -240
Max Verstappen  -205
Pastor Maldonado  -145
Sergio Perez  +100
Carlos Sainz Jr  +190
Daniil Kvyat  +200
Felipe Nasr  +215
Daniel Ricciardo  +230
Marcus Ericsson  +300
Fernando Alonso  +730
Jenson Button  +730
Roberto Merhi  +22000
Will Stevens  +22000

Formula 1   Austrian Grand Prix - Fastest Lap
Sun 6/21  8:00AM
Lewis Hamilton  +140
Nico Rosberg  +280
Sebastian Vettel  +630
Kimi Raikkonen  +660
Valtteri Bottas  +2600
Felipe Massa  +2700
Pastor Maldonado  +4100
Romain Grosjean  +4200
Nico Hulkenberg  +7000
Sergio Perez  +7000
Daniel Ricciardo  +8200
Daniil Kvyat  +11000
Carlos Sainz Jr  +11500
Max Verstappen  +11500
Fernando Alonso  +26000
Jenson Button  +26000
Felipe Nasr  +51000
Marcus Ericsson  +52500
Roberto Merhi  +210000
Will Stevens  +210000

Formula 1   Austrian Grand Prix - Winning Car
Sun 6/21  8:00AM
Mercedes  -660
Ferrari  +580
Williams  +3000
Force India  +11000
Lotus  +27500
Toro Rosso  +27500
Red Bull  +110000
Sauber  +110000
McLaren  +275000
Marussia  +500000
Manor  +550000

Formula 1   Austrian Grand Prix - First Driver Retirement
Sun 6/21  8:00AM
Fernando Alonso  +750
Jenson Button  +800
Pastor Maldonado  +1000
Daniil Kvyat  +1400
Max Verstappen  +1500
Romain Grosjean  +1500
No Retirement  +1500
Carlos Sainz  +1700
Will Stevens  +2100
Daniel Ricciardo  +2100
Roberto Merhi  +2200
Nico Hulkenberg  +2200
Sergio Perez  +2200
Marcus Ericsson  +2400
Felipe Nasr  +2500
Felipe Massa  +2800
Kimi Raikkonen  +2800
Valtteri Bottas  +2800
Nico Rosberg  +3300
Sebastian Vettel  +3300
Lewis Hamilton  +3300

5mike5 June 20, 2015, 05:33:27 PM (#10)

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Fastest lap for the race:

KIMI "the iceman" (+660)
Maldanadado   (+4100)


Hell even I am jumping in a the F1 wagering this weekend with A little action myself what the hell.   Be something fun to wake up to and eat a good breakfast with.

 :cheers


If I add anything else I'll post but since I know NOTHING about this type of racing just gonna have fun rooting on u guys and my fastest laps guys.  Well really guy since 1 guys odds seems like that's impossible. LOL

GOODLUCK!!!!


Optional June 20, 2015, 11:56:49 PM (#11)

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Fastest lap for the race:

KIMI "the iceman" (+660)
Maldanadado   (+4100)


Hell even I am jumping in a the F1 wagering this weekend with A little action myself what the hell.   Be something fun to wake up to and eat a good breakfast with.

 :cheers


If I add anything else I'll post but since I know NOTHING about this type of racing just gonna have fun rooting on u guys and my fastest laps guys.  Well really guy since 1 guys odds seems like that's impossible. LOL

GOODLUCK!!!!

Not bad with the delayed Xfinity race. This will finish about an hour before Chicagloand race starts. :)


I mostly want Perez/Hulk for fast lap. Kimi makes me the next most. Williams and Lotus will do too.

Need Ricciardo to finish 11th or worse and Perez to finish Top 10


Might make a h2h parlay but think thats about it for me.

yisman June 21, 2015, 12:35:12 AM (#12)

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got here too late, 5 Dimes moved everything after someone bet them (mike?)

I'm only taking what I can get at the same price so I took these at Heritage


#1) Sport : Motor Racing Futures
Selection : Formula 1
Selection : Formula 1 - Austrian Grand Prix
Felipe Massa   +2700

Odds to Win the Austrian Grand Prix - Fastest Lap

#2) Sport : Motor Racing Futures
Selection : Formula 1
Selection : Formula 1 - Austrian Grand Prix
Nico Hulkenberg   +7000

Odds to Win the Austrian Grand Prix - Fastest Lap

#3) Sport : Motor Racing Futures
Selection : Formula 1
Selection : Formula 1 - Austrian Grand Prix
Sergio Perez   +7500

Odds to Win the Austrian Grand Prix - Fastest Lap


they didn't move the Mercedes bet but -660? I can't bet big on it. Maybe to win 20 bucks and also an open parlay.


edit: can't parlay it because it's a future

Wog Dog June 21, 2015, 12:42:46 AM (#13)

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I "dutched" the fastest laps too and even added in the 2 you left out Merhi and Stevens for 50 cents each. 50 cents for $1,000 might as well just in case. Bet Hamilton to win -170 straight earlier. Started parlays with Rosberg +300 to win and also Rosberg over Vettel -160. Risking more money than I ever have on F1; sucks when there is no Cup race. My 5Dimes account might not be looking to good after this race. :lol

yisman June 21, 2015, 03:07:32 AM (#14)

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I went with dogs on HTHs anyway


#1) Sport : Motor Racing Other Sports
Selection : K. Raikkonen 6/21/2015 5:00AM - (PST)
Money Line +131 for Game

#2) Sport : Motor Racing Other Sports
Selection : P. Maldonado 6/21/2015 5:00AM - (PST)
Money Line +137 for Game

#3) Sport : Motor Racing Other Sports
Selection : C. Sainz 6/21/2015 5:00AM - (PST)
Money Line +133 for Game

#4) Sport : Motor Racing Other Sports
Selection : D. Ricciardo 6/21/2015 5:00AM - (PST)
Money Line +127 for Game